ANNOUNCER: On tonight’s program, Chancellor and founders of Oral Roberts University, Oral and Evelyn Roberts.  Now let’s welcome our host, Richard and Lindsay Roberts.

RR: Hallelujah.  This is the Hour of Healing!  Hallelujah.  Well, go ahead and give the Lord praise.

RR: Hallelujah!  Come on, this is miracle night!  This is healing night!  This is the Hour of Healing.

LR: Yes, yes!  I agree in Jesus’ name.

RR: Praise God, Lindsay, last night when we got home, we were watching on Channel 53, watching “Chronicles of Faith,” which takes people way back into the tent crusade days with my father, Oral Roberts, and I saw my father Lindsay, I saw him last night on television, about the middle 1950s, I saw him say, “Lay your hand on my hand.”

LR: We did.

RR: And for the past few nights, I’ve been saying that, “Lay your hand on my hand,” and the miracle, healing testimonies that have been coming through the Abundant Life Prayer Group to us each night, well, it’s just been absolutely astounding what God is doing.

LR: You know

RR: The Bible still works today in your life. If you will attach your faith and set your faith in agreement with the Word of God, miracles will happen.  Glory to God.

LR: Remember how Jesse Duplantis kept saying the other night that there was so much heat.  He said, “Richard, I just keep feeling this heat.”  He said it was like a heat coming all over him.  He said, “Even my ears got hot.”  But he said the anointing had never felt like that before on him.  But the minute he sat down on this platform, he said the heat just came over him. We had a gentleman in our studio last night that said it just felt so hot in here.  The heat just came over him, and he said he went home and watched the replay of it at night and

RR: It replays in Tulsa about midnight.

LR: Uh-huh, and he put his hand up on the television when you said that, and he said, “The anointing right then started up with that heat again.”

RR: Praise God.

LR: And it’s amazing that even on the replays people are getting touched and delivered and set free.

RR: Lindsay

LR: There is no distance in prayer.

RR: That’s right.  Here’s BJ calling from Coweta from last night. “Richard…”  BJ said, “I was watching the program last night because I couldn’t sleep.”  Watching the replay late last night. “Something Good Tonight, the HOUR OF HEALING, was on.  Richard, you gave a word about someone with ringing in the ears being healed.”  BJ said, “I’ve had ringing in my ears, but after that word was given, the ringing is gone.  I am healed.”  Hallelujah.

LR: Praise the Lord.

RR: Mamie in Orlando. Remember the word I gave about fingers last night being healed?

LR: I do.

RR: Now what does medical science say about offenses?  What does medical science say about unforgiveness?

J: Well, medical science literally has found out that there is connected to bitterness and unforgiveness, connected with it is rheumatoid arthritis and cancer.  Now not all cases, but it can be.  There is actually one medical doctor that I know of that is prescribing the Bait of Satan book to his patients, rheumatoid arthritis patients and cancer.

RR: Are you serious?

J: I’m not kidding.  He buys them en masse from our ministry and then actually writes on the prescription, Bait of Satan book, and says to the people, “You have to read this book.”  And people are getting healed. See, in meetings God has had me preach on offenses.  I’ve preached it all over the world, Richard, for the last four, five, six years.  In every service I have preached it, fifty to eighty percent of the people respond fifty to eighty percent in every congregation I’ve been in all over the world!  They respond, saying, “I’m holding an offense.”

And in those services we have seen many times people come up to us, saying, “I was healed of this.  I was healed of that.  God totally delivered me.  I’ve been believing for years to be healed of this sickness.  I’m healed of it.”

And there’s a scripture, listen to this, in Proverbs, chapter 18, verse 14, the Bible says, “The spirit of the man will sustain him in sickness.”  Now if your spirit is weakened because of offense, if it’s wounded because of offense, it cannot sustain you because out of the spirit, out of the heart flow the issues of life.  And so many are poisoned by the root of bitterness. And bitterness is a root.  It fuels that sickness in that body.

RR: You may be watching tonight and you have an offense, you have a hurt that’s deep on the inside.  And first you were hurt, youwere crushed, and then it turned to bitterness and it turned to unforgiveness.  It turned to an anger.  It turned to a, you’ve just eaten up on the inside and there’s some things that are beginning to go haywire in your life because of it.

I was talking to one medical doctor, a well-known orthopedic surgeon, who said, “Many times I find that patients who are dealing with arthritis, they’re literally driven inside themselves.”  And he began to do like this.  He said, “Bitterness kind of makes you do like this.”  And he says, “Now look at the shape of my body,” when he did this.  It makes you turn in on yourself.  It makes you kind of roll up almost in a ball.

LR: And she said she knows the lady that’s called in with the testimony bending over with her back.

RR: Lindsay

LR: God is a healing God.

RR: last night after our program was over, we just wound up having a healing service in the room.

LR: We had a party.

RR: We laid hands on everybody that moved last night.

LR: My idea of a party is a healing line.  That’s a party to me.

RR: And Marilyn Hickey was here last night and gave an altar call, and two ladies who came from that hospital gave their lives to Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior.

LR: That’s a party!  That’s a party to me.  The world parties, but to me that’s a party.

RR: What’ve you got, Lynwood?

Lynwood Wells: Richard, last night you gave a word about a seven-year-old who was being healed

LR: Yes.

LW: of tonsillitis.

RR: I did, I did.

LR: And said, “Swallow,” remember that?

LW: And you said, “Swallow.”

RR: Yes.

LW: Well, we got this call that there was a seven-year-old in Grand Rapids, Michigan …

LR: It’s Michigan.  Hi!

LR: who was healed last night, and we just happened. We just called back to make sure she’s still healed.  We have both her and her mother on the line right now.  Would you like to speak to them?

RR: Is the mother’s name Jennifer, or is that the little girl’s name?

LW: The mother’s name is Jennifer.

RR: Jennifer, are you on the line?

Jennifer: Yes, I am.

RR: Are you in Grand Rapids?

Jennifer: Yes.

RR: Hi.

Jennifer: Hi.

RR: Come here, honey.  Were you watching last night when I gave that word of knowledge?

Jennifer: Well, you know, it was the strangest thing.  I was watching and I was also on the phone with a girlfriend.  We were praying together and praising the Lord, and you had mentioned something about a prolapsed heart valve.

RR: I did.

JOHN: Well, I have a condition on my legs.  I’ve had swelling and cysts and tumors in my legs and sore that come on the outside that sometimes go clear to the bone.  And they’ve been real bad again, and it’s a condition that the doctors up in Indiana said was from Agent Orange.  They said

RR: Does this go back to when you were in the Vietnam war, John?

JOHN: Yes, sir.

RR: What happened when we prayed, John?

JOHN: Well, you had a word of knowledge that someone with a right leg, the swelling was going down, that they had tumors and sores on their leg, and that the swelling was going down and that the tumors were disappearing.  And immediately I felt a heat come on my legs, on both of them, and not just the right one the left one too.

RR: Both legs.

JOHN: Both legs.  And the sores are completely healed over now. There’s new skin over them, and you can’t feel the cysts anymore.

RR: Whooo!  Hallelujah. Hallelujah, hallelujah, hallelujah.

LR: Praise the Lord.

RR: John, we set our faith ablaze with that testimony.  There may be somebody else watching right now, you’ve got problems with your legs.  Just lay your hands on your legs last night.  Here’s John in Orlando, Florida, we’re talking to him live on television, a Vietnam veteran having this condition, and he said those things are just beginning to come off his legs.  God is no respecter of persons.  If He can do that for John in Orlando, He can do that for you.  And … go ahead, Lindsay.

LR: And in Jesus’ name, John, we say Nahum 1:9 to you, “Afflictions shall not rise up”

RR: A good word, a good word.

LR: “a second time.

RR: Good word.

LR: We call it done and finished in

RR: Good word.

LR: the name of Jesus.

RR: And I add my word of faith to Lindsay’s word of faith.  You who are having problems with your legs and something like that  maybe you’re a Vietnam veteran.  Anyone who is a Vietnam veteran, you need prayer tonight.  You need to get up and call the Abundant Life Prayer Group at 918-495-7777 and let us stand in faith in agreement with you in Jesus’ name for you to be well.  Maybe something went terribly wrong in your body or something else has happened because of your service to the United States through our military services.  Let us stand in faith and agreement with you in prayer.  And in the authority of Jesus’ name, whatever it is, I come into an agreement with you in Jesus’ mighty name for you to be healed.  Hallelujah.

John, I give praise to the Lord for what He’s done in your life, and I’m believing that God’s going to heal other veterans, maybe veterans from the Korean War, some other veteran from some other conflict in our history.  And I just set my faith in agreement with you.  John, praise the Lord, praise the Lord. You’ve got another one, Steve.

STEVE: We’ve got another praise report of a healing in a right ear as a result of a word of knowledge that you gave last night.

RR: Where is this … this is from

STEVE: This is from Ohio.

RR:  Ohio.  Who is this?  Pam.

STEVE:  on the line.

RR: Pam, are you on the line?

PAM: I am.

RR: Hello, Pam.

PAM: Hello.

LR: Isn’t technology wonderful?

PAM: Where are you in Ohio?

LR: It’s amazing.

PAM: Eaton.

RR: Eaton?

LR: Eaton.

RR: And what happened last night, Pam?

PAM: Well, you had given a word of knowledge, and I believe it was while Marilyn Hickey was praying.  And you had said something first about an ear lobe and so I

RR: Inaudible, Both Talking At Same Time

RR: You may be watching tonight and you have an offense, you have a hurt that’s deep on the inside.  And first you were hurt, you were crushed, and then it turned to bitterness and it turned to unforgiveness.  It turned to anger.  It turned to a, you’ve just eaten up on the inside and there’s some things that are beginning to go haywire in your life because of it. I was talking to one medical doctor, a well known orthopedic surgeon, who said, “Many times I find that patients who are dealing with arthritis, they’re literally driven inside themselves.”  And he began to do like this.  He said, “Bitterness kind of makes you do like this.”  And he says, “Now look at the shape of my body,” when he did this.  It makes you turn in on yourself.  It makes you kind of roll up almost in a ball.

John, there are people right now that are in need of help. They’re in need of someone to pray for them.  Because you talk about a people who need a healing, people need healing who are into unforgiveness.  And I want you to just pray and minister to the people right now.  That’s what this program is about, the healing ministry.

J: The thing I want to say to you right now is this; you’ve got to be able to admit that you are offended.  That’s the first step for getting free.  Most people won’t admit it.  They’ll say, “No, I’m fine.  I’m over it.  I’ve handled it.”  Tonight as we talked, Richard and I, Lindsay and Lisa, it came back up.  The reason it came up, it’s the Holy Spirit trying to get you free.  Pride has kept you from getting free because pride has always said, “No, I’m fine.”  No, you’re not fine.  You’re wounded and you need to be able to confess it, because that’s the first step to getting free.

The next step you have to understand is, Jesus forgave you when you didn’t deserve it.  He freely forgave you.  He said that you are to forgive the way He’s forgiven you.  That means you’re to be able to forgive this person, no matter what they did to you.  I don’t care what was done to you.  Somebody says, “But you don’t know what was done to me.”  No, you don’t know what you did to Jesus.  You were the one that put Him on that cross.  I’m the one that put Him on that cross.

We’re in the top, ranked in the top 30^th in baseball right now.  We’re in the middle of our Midwestern City’s Conference right now.  We’re expecting to get a bid for the NCAA Tournament in baseball to be a witness for Jesus Christ through athletics.  You’re looking at the roof on top of the Learning Resources Center where most of the classes are held at ORU.  We need some repair work there.  That’s the chapel building where our lay seminar is beginning tonight.  We have about 1,200 to 1,500 people who will be coming in town today for our lay seminar which begins tonight and continues Friday, Saturday and closes on Sunday with my dad and me laying hands on all of our partners.  And there is Mabee Center there. We’re inside that building right now.

And we have some serious roof repair work to do on Mabee Center and some painting.  And we have some lights that we showed yesterday.  We have a lot that has to be done this summer.  And we need your help.  Will you pray about sowing a special Seed-Faith gift above and beyond your normal giving this month to help us with this repair work?  Would you pray about sowing a seed of $1,000 to help us toward the restoration, the restoring of ORU this summer, getting it back into the kind of shape that it needs to be in when the students come back?

Will you pray about sowing a seed of $500?  Will you pray about sowing a seed of maybe $100 or maybe $50 or $25?  Will you be a part of helping us here at ORU?  You know, Arlie, in your home if something breaks down in your home, you know, you’ve got to fix it.  You’ve got to take care of it.  And sometimes there’s a better time of the year to put it all together and get it fixed. Well, summertime is our time here at ORU.  We’ve got to do something and we’re doing it now.  We’ve ordered equipment. We’ve ordered materials and now all we’ve got to do is pay for it, Arlie.

SPKM ARLIE WHITLOW Well, I think everybody wants to help you too, Brother Richard.  We have four teenagers in our home and I want you to take care of Oral Roberts University real well and I want the folks to respond because I want them to come out here.  And I’ve never been here before, but we’re out scouting around looking for a place for our children to go to college.

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS Well, you’re looking at a good place.  Last year we remodeled the dormitories during the summer and the partners helped me to remodel the dormitories.  And now we’ve gota lot more that we need to do. You know, it’s an ongoing thing. It’s like your family, your family, you know, you’ve got things, you know, a child grows out of a pair of shoes and you’ve got to get a new pair of shoes, Lindsay.  You’ve got to keep going, got to keep things moving.

SPLR LINDSAY ROBERTS That’s exactly right.  But, you know, the other day–I take Jordan for a walk all around here because she loves to walk around the campus. We have a duck pond and she likes to visit the ducks and all the things.

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS And the swans.

SPLR LINDSAY ROBERTS And coming down to see it, we were driving it this time and we came down and there was an enormous gush of water.  And we looked up and I said, “Richard, what in the world is that?”  And the entire cooling tower for the dormitories had–I don’t know if you’d say sprung a leak or it had just started flooding water out.

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS That’s just two or three nights ago.

SPLR LINDSAY ROBERTS And there’s nothing you can do but fix it. I mean, you cannot let the thing do the damage that it was doing to the rest of the campus when all this water came pouring out. And at the same time, there’s no air conditioning unless the cooling tower works right.  And I’ll tell you, when things break down you have no choice but to repair it.  And I praise God that we were able to repair the inside of the dorms last year.  But now we’ve got to do the outside work.  It seems like it’s never ending.  But God has a miracle.

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS You remind me, one of the largest furniture dealers in this part of the country lives right here in Tulsa. And he said to my dad and me, “Whenever I get discouraged, I drive my car out onto the ORU campus and I get over in this Mabee Center parking lot just outside this building and I park my car and I just look around and I say, “Look at what faith did.  My business can go.  Look at what faith did.”  That’s what you’re saying.

SPKM ARLIE WHITLOW That’s accountability.

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS Yeah.

SPKM ARLIE WHITLOW That works.  And when a pastor can come here from Washington, D. C. and come out here–yesterday I walked all these grounds.  I went up in the City of Faith and I walked over here in the Mabee Center, went through all this, through the campus, and I could feel faith enter my bones.  And that’s what God’s using in this hour.  He’s using Oral Roberts University and Richard Roberts to inspire a whole lot of folks.

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS Well, Arlie, we need some special help this summer.  I want to  SU03 take you out on the campus in just a moment and show you some of the things that we’re doing.  You know, when the students are gone we do the maintenance and repair work at ORU during the summer because you can’t do a lot of things when school is on because you have students everywhere and faculty, and I guess when you get us all together there’s more than 5,000, maybe 5,500 of us.  And you can’t do the type of work that you can do when the summertime comes.  We only have from now until August to get this work done.  And I’ve been sharing with the people about some maintenance work and things that we’re doing.

And right now I want to take you out on the campus and show you some of the cooling towers and some of the things that are going wrong that’s got to be fixed.  In fact, right now you’re looking at one of the cooling towers that has a pretty good size leak in it, due to normal wear, rust, normal–you know, the normal, normal things happen.  There you can see one of the leaks.  It’s going to cost about $1,500 to $2,000 in repairs on this chiller, I guess they call it, air conditioning unit.  I’m not sure what building that’s for.  Oh, that’s for the aerobics center.  And then we go over to the main cooling towers for the campus buildings.  The insides of it are wearing out after years, and it’s going to cost us a great deal of money to do the reworking of the guts of this building.  You can see some of the leaks and things that have to be done and we go over to some of the chillers and cooling towers outside of the dormitories.

There’s one out there behind the four twin tower, quad tower dormitories, as we call them.  There are some major leaks and problems, going to cost thousands of dollars to do this work this summer.  We have, we have buildings that we have to put some new roofs on.  We’ve been doing some painting.  We’re getting ready to pain the Classroom Building.  You’re looking at it right now. We’ve got to paint this building.  And we have students that are working this summer.  We need some money.  We’ve got the paint coming, but we’ve got to pay for it all.  And this is the Johnston Baseball Stadium, and we need to patch the roof, repair the roof, going to take $27,000 to do the work on this roof in our baseball stadium.

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS He’s watching this morning.  He’ll remember that B-29 hangar, I know–

SPKM ARLIE WHITLOW Well, I was 7 years old and I remember so well my sister being, she couldn’t walk at all.  She couldn’t control her faculties.  So the four of us went, mother took her back to the invalid section and daddy and myself stayed out in the congregation.  Brother Roberts came by and he looked at mother and he said, “Mother, don’t worry, your daughter is going to be all right.”  And mother said it was just like the eyes of Jesus reassured her that her little, 10 years old, her little 10 year old daughter was going to be well.  The miracle didn’t happen then.  I remember them coming out from the section and I thought my sister would really be walking, and she didn’t.  But several weeks later they had put her in the back yard in the sunshine and mother looked out the back window and there was Patty.  She was walking across that back yard.

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS Hallelujah Completely made whole

SPKM ARLIE WHITLOW Made well.  And now she’s 50 years old and still well.

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS And that was in 1948.

SPKM ARLIE WHITLOW 1948.

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS That was the year I was born.  My dad began this healing ministry in 1947.  And, Arlie, you may not know this, but this is his anniversary month.  Forty years ago this month, the month of May, this ministry began.  And, you know, you hear a lot about accountability  SU05 today.  You know, you read newspaper articles and, you know, you don’t know which one to, which one to believe and which one not to believe because the media has a tendency to distort and to sensationalize. And you talk a lot about accountability, but you bring to my mind the accountability of this ministry is the healing power of God.  I cannot remember a time, now of course I’m 38, the ministry is 40 years old. So I cannot remember a time when the healing power of God was not flowing through the Oral Roberts Ministry.  The countless hundreds of thousands of testimonies like your sister, who have been healed, who have been touched.  There was one period of time during my father’s tent crusades–you talked about a tent earlier–where  more than five million people in a few years’ time received Christ as their Lord and Savior through his crusades around the world and throughout the United States.

The accountability is the healing power of God.  And success without a successor is failure.  Oral Roberts University, of course, came and you see, well right now you can’t see the students here because school was concluded a week ago and, or a week and a half ago, I guess, and now they’re literally all over America and all over the world.  They’re in healing teams.  They’re in mission teams.  They’re in music teams.  They’re in businesses.  They’re on jobs.  (Applause) They’re going to the nations of the earth with God’s healing power because God said, “Build Me a university.  Build it on My authority. Build it on the Holy Spirit.  Raise up your students to hear My voice,” Arlie, “and to go.”  Now we started with 300 freshmen.  Now 4,600 students strong.  And we look over at the City of Faith and you see prayer and medicine being joined together.  You see people by the thousands coming to the City of Faith to get their, to get help, to get doctors and prayer joined together.  And you see the credibility of the ministry.  You see what God’s doing.

SPKM ARLIE WHITLOW And credibility and accountability takes two or three different turns.  I came in a day early because we’re getting ready to build a three million dollar church.  And I’ve got to raise a million and a half dollars this weekend for my congregation for our first deposit in our first beginning on the building.  So I came a day early to get away from office and get away from telephones, and I got across the street.  I’m in that motel and I told my wife, I said, “I’m just going to go there and I’m going to soak up the spirit of faith, because if I need anything right now I need faith.”  And so I got in the bed that night and the next morning the sunlight, you know, was peeping through the curtain.  And I opened that big curtain and here’s this university looking at me that faith built.  I grabbed the phone up and I said, “Honey, we can do it.”  If this man can do that, I can do it.

You know when you deserve it and you know when you don’t, and I didn’t deserve it.  And I cried and I cried and I cried until there was nothing left inside me to cry about.  I couldn’t cry any more.  And about 5 o’clock in the morning. I was still wide awake and still crying and I sat looking out the window in the bedroom, still crying, and the Lord said to me:  Lindsay, you are never responsible for somebody else but you are totally responsible for you.  And he said:  Now you forget what other people say, but don’t you ever forget what you say and everything that you say better glorify me.  And I just learned right then.

I dropped it all.  I cannot make somebody else be different, but I sure can make me be different.  And I learned very, very clearly that God has ordained me to do something and it doesn’t matter what people say, it doesn’t matter what they think, it doesn’t matter how they print, what they say, what they talk. You are responsible unto God and if you will follow God, he will take care of all the rest of the details.

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS Well, I honor you, I honor you, Barbara, for your testimony, for your life.  I pray God will continue to bless your cosmetics company.  It’s going around the world and you very well put it today.  As you put your life into God, God will take care of your business.  God will cause new accounts to come to you.  In fact, you’re going to receive some new accounts from this program.  People are going to say, “Well, I’ve never heard of the Barbara Walden Cosmetic Company but I’m going to look it up.”  As you honor God and give your witness, your business is going to continue to grow.  God is giving me that word right now so I receive it with you.  Let’s give the Lord and Barbara a great handclap.

And as we close our program today I want to remind you can have your copy of this, really, once in a lifetime offer of “Venture Into Faith.”  This great, whole, feature-length motion picture about a tremendous miracle healing with a certificate of authenticity, signed, numbered, dated by my father, Oral Roberts, during this month, our anniversary month, our 40-year anniversary month.  Sow your seed of $100 on your credit card or certified check or cashier’s check and we can begin to do the restoration work immediately here at ORU.  Just call the Abundant Life Prayer Group at 918-495-7777.

Yes, Lindsay, and this is Barbara’s book.  Is it available in bookstores?

SPKM BARBARA WALDEN Yes. SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS “Easy Glamor, The Black Woman’s Definite Guide to Beauty and Style,” by Barbara Walden with Vicky Linder. You can get it in your bookstore.  Barbara, God bless you. Tanya, thank you for being our guest today.  Till we see you tomorrow, remember, no matter what it looks like, God can turn it around for you.  (APPLAUSE)   AD03 PROMO FOR AMERICAN AIRLINES AD02 PROMO FOR “Venture Into Faith” for $100 SPKM ORU SINGERS  SONG Turn_it_around

SPKM STEVE VICKERS It’s a joy to be here.

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS  SU04 It’s a joy for us to get to meet you personally and for you to share this story.  It  began, Denise, with you when the doctors told you that you had rheumatoid arthritis and it looked like you might very well end up in a wheelchair the rest of your life.  Can you just share the story.

SPKM DENISE VICKERS I’d be glad to.  I tell you, I’m going to pay the devil back for the rest of my life for what he did to me for 2| years.  I’ll tell you what happened.  In the middle of the night my body was electrified with rheumatoid arthritis.  I was put in the hospital and they diagnosed it and I was healed…. God healed me after two months but then I let the medical field, which I praise God for the medical field, but I let men’s words convince me I was in remission because of being pregnant.  They said rheumatoid arthritis goes into remission while you’re pregnant and I let those words take root in me.  Then as soon as I gave birth, while I was in the hospital it came back on my body because I allowed those words…. see, the power of men’s words…. to take root.

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS Did you give up your faith at that point?

SPKM DENISE VICKERS I kept telling myself, “No, God healed me,”

but I let those words take root without realizing what I was doing because when I gave birth to my baby, when I was in the hospital the first thought I had was:  How soon will it come back?  And while I was in the hospital, it came back on me.  And I went home and I was standing in the shower and I cried out to God because my body was hurting.  I had pain in every joint in my body.  There wasn’t a joint that wasn’t affected and I was standing in the shower and I screamed out, “God, heal me.”  And when I did, Richard, it was like God slapped those words back in my face and he said:  I did heal you.  And I got out of the shower and I turned to Steve and I said, “Steve, how can you be healed and still be in pain?” And I went down a road, I went to hell and back for 2| years in severe pain, and I was on medication morning and night to keep my body walking.  I tried to miss my medication one time and I had to go get shots in my hips to release my hip joints.  And I mean, even though I knew what the Word of God says…. my husband is a pastor that preaches the Word of God, preaches healing, and yet the devil would torment my mind and say:  Where is your God?  Where is that healer?

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS What was happening in your mind while all this was going on?

SPKM STEVE VICKERS  SU05 Well, you know, Richard, at night I would lay beside her in the bed and she would be crying.  She would be saying, “Pray for me, Steve. I’m hurting.”  And as soon as I would touch her she’d say, “Don’t touch me,” cause she hurt all over her body.  I would start to pray for her but, Richard, it was like there were ten thousand demons around me saying:  And you call yourself a man of God.  Where is your God?  Where is this Jesus you preach about?  Where are the signs and wonders and miracles?  You preach about them and you see them happening in other people’s lives, but you can’t even produce it in your own wife’s life.  And he was trying to steal from me that boldness to stand firm on what I knew to be the truth.

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS Now you had already joined the Charismatic Bible Ministries Fellowship at that time, you had attended several of the conferences…..

SPKM STEVE VICKERS Every one of them.

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS …. and you were making plans to attend another one.